Spider verse with Abel

Elijah VeryBare and Abel Reynolds discuss their love for the Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse movie and the sequel, Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse. They talk about the animation style, soundtrack, and characters in the films. They also mention their excitement for the sequel and the cliffhanger ending. They compare the two movies and discuss the differences in animation and length. They mention their favorite characters and the development of Gwen's character in the second movie. They also talk about the aging of Miles and the unique animation styles for each universe. And welcome back to The Very Bare Show, it is I, Elijah VeryBare, with me today I have Abel Reynolds, a good friend of mine, I've known him since a while, and today we, well we have a lot of things in common, but today I specifically want to talk about one specific thing, specific Spider-Man, specifically Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse, a newer movie, I guess, depends how you define newer, it's no longer in theaters, the hit sequel to Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse, I know personally it is my, Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse is my favorite movie of all time, how about you Abel, what's your opinion on the first one? I would agree, it's a fantastic movie, I don't know if it's the best movie of all time, but it's definitely top three. Yeah, I, that's fair, I can see why it wouldn't be your favorite, like everyone has their own personal thing, but definitely, like for me it's good, tell me like, for you, your, like say top three or four favorite things about the original. The original Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse movie was awesome, because of the soundtrack first of all, the music was just a bunch of bangers, second of all, the plot was great, it's like you take Spider-Man, but then there's more of them, true, one plus one equals better, nice. Um, yeah I have to agree, for me the thing that stands out the most is the animation, I love the animation in that movie, it's so unique, and my favorite part is how it looks like a comic book just ripped out into like animated form, I don't think any other movie has been able to replicate that feel, even if they've tried. Plus in Boots tried, that was a good movie, but it definitely wasn't like. They did, but they were going for a different feel, like Spider-Man was like, they have a definitely different, similar animation style, but Spider-Man was going definitely for like comic book, while Puss in Boots was going for something else. I don't know how you describe, I have not seen that movie yet, it's on the list, but. The movie's very good, I watched it recently. I've heard, I think I watched you watch it. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, like for me, I don't know about you, but I love comic books. I think comics are the best form of storytelling medium out there, for me personally. I have a huge collection, I've read old ones, I currently read the new ones. For those wondering, my favorite comic book series out right now is Venom, unfortunately Donny Cates doesn't write it anymore, but the new writer's doing pretty good, it's weird. It's a separate topic for a separate podcast episode, but that's part of the reason I love Spider-Man and Spider-Person, which is just that crisp comic book look and animation style. Absolutely. When they, well obviously, it made like a bajillion dollars, the original, and it was a blockbuster, so obviously there was going to be a sequel. When it was first announced, I'm assuming you were excited? I was pumped. That might have been the most excited I've been for an upcoming movie, like, ever. Yeah, same here. When I watched that first trailer, I was freaking out, it was nuts. Yeah, it's interesting because it wasn't the direction I was expecting them to go. I was expecting more like, oh, we're going to focus more on Miles and his own universe, and maybe like the original crew of Spider-Man. I wasn't expecting it to scale. Thank you, Mr. Roach, for that wonderful commentary. I wasn't expecting the scale the movie went on, just the sheer volume. Thank you, Mr. Roach, for your wonderful commentary again. He teaches math. His comments are irrelevant. Fair enough. But yeah, so did you see the movie in theaters? I did. I wasn't able to. It's one of my biggest regrets. But watching it in theaters, was it what you hoped it to be? It was crazy. The absolute energy of the movie just kept ramping up and ramping up, and it gets to a certain point where you're like, there's no way they can conclude everything, and then you realize, oh. It's a sequel. It's a sequel. There's going to be a sequel, yeah, and then it ends with a cliffhanger. For those who haven't seen the movie yet, spoilers are going to be abound here. So if you haven't seen the movie and you don't want to watch it without spoilers, click away. Go somewhere else. Get a life. I don't know what to tell you. Spoilers abound. But yeah, watching it. So what I did was, I actually just watched it recently, just time constraints and everything like that. Life is dumb. But I was in Wal-Mart, and I saw they were selling Spider-Man and Just Spider-Verse and Across the Fighters on DVD. I didn't know they had them out yet, besides in theaters. I believe it's just recently come out on the physical medium, but also I had the digital codes in, too. I'm like, oh, it's really cheap to get both movies for the price of one, and I haven't seen the one movie, and the other is my favorite movie of all time. So I proceeded to... Good deal. Good deal. To go into capitalism. It was very good. And then, I believe it was like that night, or maybe it was the next night, I watched both movies back-to-back. And it's interesting watching both movies, again, back-to-back, because they're so similar and different at the same time. Absolutely. Compare your thoughts between the two. The first one is a lot more, I feel, animated in sort of like a stop-motion-y way. I feel like the first one more goes for that traditional comic book look, and the second one expands on it. And the color... The animation on the second one, I'd say, blows the first one out of the water. Animation-wise, it's just stunning. There's so many different scenes from the movie, you could just stop it, and then that's you knew wallpaper, which is what I did. But they had... The animation was better in the second one, I believe. I don't know if the soundtrack in the second one, the nostalgia of the first, they're still really good music. But I don't... What do you think about that? Miguel Otero's theme song, the theme is so good. It's funny, because I heard it as the meme before I heard it in the movie, and I'm like, oh, that's where it comes from. But it's solid. It's interesting, too, because it kind of sounds a little silly at first, just hearing it outside, but then with the context of the scene, especially the scene where he's introduced, it sounds so cool. It's sick, yeah. One thing I found interesting between the two is the length, because the second one is only, I want to say, 20, maybe 15 minutes longer, but it feels longer. It feels like there's two hours more into it. It's because it's a complete story. It wraps everything up. That's the one thing in the second one I was talking about, it just keeps going and going in every scene. Something gets more intense or more extra with it, because they don't have to wrap it up in that movie. They can just keep going, and that was, I feel, one of the reasons they could add so much, so quick, is because they didn't have to conclude it. They didn't have to do a quick wrap-up, because they can just put it off. Procrastination. Why not? Who, I guess, in the first movie, did you have a favorite character? Miles. Miles. Fair enough. Did it change in the second? I really like Gwen more now, just because it went more in-depth into her character, and why she is who she is. Peter B. Parker is also really funny, with just the baby now. Mayday was such a good character. It was. I'm interested if they're going to, maybe at the end of the third one, flash forward and have her be a grown spider woman and show something like that. That'd be cool, yeah. I hope they do something like that, but we'll see if that comes about or not. One thing I'm sure you noticed, because you said you watched them back-to-back, was the aging on Miles. I thought that was an interesting touch, is they don't do it back-to-back. There is a gap in between the two movies, so you can noticeably tell that he is older, which I quite like about it. Another interesting thing that I wasn't expecting was, the first 20 minutes of the second one is focusing completely on Gwen, going back a little bit. I thought it was really cool. I will say, I love how each universe has their own different animation style. That was so cool. It's like the watercolor. Yeah, the watercolor. It looks so good. Every time we were in her universe, I was blown away how it looked, because it somehow managed to have these solid lines, but yet totally ignore them with the coloring. Absolutely, yeah. Her hair is pink in one scene, blonde, then blue, and it's just about the emotion and feel of the room, and it's just so cool. Her father, Captain Stacy, was a really good character, too. He was really well-developed. The amount of emotion you can put into a character like that, with only a limited amount of screen time, was really impressive. Because he wasn't on for that much, but you make those interactions between him and Gwen really feel, and that was sick. I will say, I love how the universal thing for Spider-Man is to trick loved ones that they're not themselves. It's just to make their voices slightly deeper, both Miles and Gwen, and I think one of the few other Spider-Men. Oh, yeah. I think Tom Holland does that. Yeah, Tom Holland does. What's the Indian Spider-Man name? I can't remember his name. We're just going to call him Indian Spider-Man. He does the same thing. I find that funny. It's just, he's a deeper voice. I'm a different person. I really liked... What was his name? Anarchist Spider-Man. Oh, Spider-Punk. Spider-Punk. And Tobey. He was such a cool character. 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